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sit-down with the attorney general of the united states. immigration, sanctuary cities, law enforcement, all on the agenda in a prime time exclusive. >> i have talked to police officers and they think it' crazy. judge jeanine: we drop a bomb on afghanistan, good or bad. >> complicated. judge jeanine: street justice heads to president trump's front door to ask opinions about our military action in afghanistan. we bombed afghanistan, was that good or bad? >> when did we bomb afghanistan? judge jeanine: wake up. "justice" starts now. break night, north korea attempts but fails at a missile launch. hello and welcome to justice live from our nation's capital, i'm judge jeanine pirro. it's not known what type of
missile it was. but the u.s. is confirming north korea attempted to fire a missile, but it explode on launch and failed. president trump has been briefed on the situation. former governor mike huckabee and john bolton join me tonight to discuss. we have colonel david hunt and general tom mcinerney. gregg palkot is in pyongyang and has been following this breaking story. >> the came in two hours ago. it didn't come over from the north korean government. we talked to officials here. and so farther not giving us any word. the first word came from a south korean military. they surveil closely what happened here.
just before dawn there was a launch on the east coast of north korea. it looks like an intermediate-type missile. a asked you-type -- a scud-type missile. it failed shortly after takeoff. that was confirmed by the united states pacific command. this was -- something was expected, judge. yesterday north korea time, saturday, was the 105th anniversary, the birth date founder. it is the biggest day in the year and we have been on the ground and seen it happen in the past. they have launched other missiles. there was speculation about whether they would detonate a 6th nuclear device. it didn't happen the day before
or the day of. they tried the day after, apparently. filing just after liftoff. therev has been solid -- there has been solid reporting that the united states is trying to cut off some of these launches using cyber warfare. we can't say that was the reason for this. but it could be a cause. alarming because it was attempted to have been launched across the sea of japan within the range of these intermediate missiles is japan where one of our closest allies and 25,000 u.s. service members. north korea said with their mid-range missiles they could easily target our troops in south korea, japan and guam. the big concern is the long-range missile they are work
on closely that could be a nuclear targeting of the united states. we don't think we are to that point yet, but that is a concern. one more note about the parade marking this anniversary date of the founder that we watched saturday. there were new intermediate range missiles including submarine launch missiles on display along that parade route where the missile was launched was near a submarine base. and we saw the proat owe types of intercontinental ballistic missiles. kim jong-un the leader here actively work on the missile program. judge jeanine: joining me now to discuss this in depth, my military panel. author of the book "without mercy, colonel david hunt and
john mcinerney. a fox news analyst. while start with general mcinerney. no surprise. i expect most us were thinking there might have been some type of missile launch yesterday. correct, general mcinerney? >> absolutely. >> let me ask you this. do you agree, general hunts? we expected something yesterday of some kind. >> yes, some kinds of provocation, yes. judge jeanine: let's talk about what kinds of provocation or launch. we don't know exactly what it was. but what we do know is north korea is a nuclear power having already launched five nukes and talk was that on the anniversary of his grandfather's birth that there might have been and 6th launch. is there the capacity on the part of north korea to launch
with this supposed intercontinental ballistic missile a nuclear weapon toward us? i'll start with you, general mcinerney. >> they don't have that capability right now. they are developing mobile icbms that can reach the united states. that's why they are testing these other independent mediate range missiles as well as going to nuclear weapons testing. not only for north korea, but also for iran. judge jeanine: colonel hunts, your response. >> it's about a year away, it's a dangerous situation. they are massive live addressive nation. judge jeanine: what has set off kim jong-un? i'm assuming -- but it's up to you to comment on this.
but what set him off that he says he vows to con president trump with -- vows to confront president trump. where president trump said the north korean problem will be taken care of. what is the problem? >> he's an unstable leader. he's trying to keep power. he's very young. he doesn't have a lot of experience. when he gets in positions like this he tries to yell and make noise and intimidate people. he's not going to intimidate this president and he's not going to intimidate our allies. judge jeanine: what is our military today passify compared to north korea? we are the sort of military power, are we not? >> we have been fighting now for
16 years. we are extremely good at this. the issue is that north korea is important because of seoul, korea. on the dmz. 15,000 artillery pieces. problem is for us to do anything. north korea will still get a massive strike on a defenseless 10 million city. seoul is held hostage for anything that is done in north korea. judge jeanine: what colonel hunt is saying we are literally held hostage to an attack if he finds out by the. he meaning jim jong-un because he will take out seoul, south korea and our vice president pence is hours away from landing in seoul, south korea. is that how it would happen? >> that's the narrative.
but we know exactly where those hardened artillery sites are. we have their latitude and congress tude with gps. we have ways of attacking those sites. you can imagine if five or six moabs were dropped in an area over there, and we had b2s that can drop 8,500 pound bombs independently targeted. in addition the readiness of those artillery sites, they don't fire. they aren't exercising them. they have been there for years. there is a readiness issue. judge jeanine: colonel hunt, you are shake your head. >> we have a lot of capabilities. but there is a-minute issue. as soon as they discover there is something in the air. they can punch buttons. no one thinks that if north korea would not get shot to the south.
we are a better military for sure. but the uncivillity of north korea and the closeness of seoul make the options very, very limited. we just can't be considered. it's a bridge too far. it will have to be china that gets fat north korea. judge jeanine: thank you so much for being with us tonight. to continue that conversation, john bolton is here with me. former united states ambassador to the united nations. >> we have got to battle on them he step of the way. we are going to put pressure on these cities. judge jeanine: ambassador john bolton. thank you for being here this evening. specifically, we know the is
apparently unstable, kim jong-un and we know he has certain nuclear capacity. what i didn't get into and it's a time issue is, you know, the electromagnetic grid which has always been a big concern for me especially as it relates to their nuclear capacity. but you can talk about why president trump is trying to engage the president of china to mold back kim jong-un. >> we have had 25 years of negotiations with north korea to try to persuade and coerce them to give up their nuclear weapons program. there is a reason for that. the possession of deliverable nuclear weapons is their ace in the hole, their insurance policy to stay in power.
asking them to give that up is like asking them to give up power. so the question is else is available for to us do. i think there is only one answer and that's for china to be convinced, what they said for years they don't want north korea to have new yarp weapons. the on true answer here is reunifying the peninsula, and we have to convince china of that. but trump's point is absolutely correct. talking north korea will be as fruitless as the first 25. th if they truly believe what they say, let's get on with it. judge jeanine: when president trump even gangs the president of china, as recently as a couple months ago, china was a currency manipulator.
now we have president trump, to his credit he meets with the man, had a good week wind him at mar-a-lago. it appears that he is calling in a few chips and maybe working on the trade issue with the president of china to get china to what, take away the oil, the coal? but will north korea -- does north korea care? does kim jong-un care about his people? >> of course he doesn't care about his people. china spries north korean oil. they supply enormous amounts of food and other humanitarian assistance because we want to keep the north koreans on their side of the river. if the regime collapses china worries without an agreement
with the united states, the south will take north korea back and american troops will be on the sllue river. we don't want to be on the riveriter. we don't want our troops pinned down there. i think he knows that the situation with the north is acute enough that he's not going to give them forever. the fact is your panel was just just discussing the north is very close to having a deliverable nuclear weapons capability that can hit the united states. that's the real point. we are not going to wait forever. i understand the dangers to the civilian population of seoul. nobody takes that lightly. but let's be clear. for an american president what the calculus is. a population of innocent civilians in an american city at risk because of this dictatorship in north korea.
we are running out of time here. we tried for 25 years to get the north to give that up. they made enormous progress. they had missile failures as we can see, including today. there is no question the estimate is there very close. judge jeanine: i hear in your voice and your word that this is really serious that we have a calculus to make. possibly seoul or the united states. john: it's in the very near future. iran can buy from north korea the next day whatever north korea possesses. it's two streets. iran and north korea. judge jeanine: more on this ahead with former candidate for president, mike huckabee. but next -- >> we are going to battle on them he step of the way. we are going to put pressure on these cities. judge jeanine: inside the department of justice here in washington.
i sit down with attorney general jeff sessions. judge jeanine: were you surprised donald trump did it? >> no, i have been waiting for him to do it. he's the king of change his mind. judge jeanine: street justice time at the white house. what do voters think about the president's bold move in afghanistan? stay with us. "justice" rolls on in a moment. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i'm back! aleve pm for a better am.
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judge jeanine: breaking tonight. north korea fails at a missile launch attempt. the president has been briefed. we'll keep you updated. i sat down with the attorney general of the united states, jeff sessions inside the department of justice. first up, immigration, sanctuary cities, and his recent trip to the border. thank you so much for allowing us here. by going to the border this week he sent a message that was loud and clear. the border is not open to anyone who just thinks they can cross it. in addition you provided a mechanism with 125 new
immigration judges, with the policy being sent to the united states attorneys that cases will be prioritized. gang members coming in for a second time, their cases will be prioritized. border patrol agents will be protected. you did all of the things that were ignored for the past 8 years. will it make a difference? >> it will make a difference. the biggest message is this border is not open. if you come to america, come lawfully, don't come unlawfully. that's a huge factor in the attempts to enter america. you have a decline in attempts to enter america. march was the lowest month in 17 years it was 72% below president obama's last month in office.
judge jeanine: president obama said there was so much poverty in central america, el salvador, honduras. there was a lot of talk by border patrol agents that gang members from el salvador were coming into the country. border patrol members were telling me they were saying i'm a gang member. what are you going to do about it? you have to let me in. even if we do close that border, the mechanism is in place. you put it in place. now what do we do with the ones who were here. how do we finds them, identify them and move them out? >> we are going after them. we can defeat those gangs. in 2006 or 2007, ms13 was severely damaged. its murders and crimes were way down. but they have come back last decade and we can do it again.
we are going to do it again. they need to know right now. we are coming after you and other gangs too. but the ms13 is a particularly violent gang and it needs to be stopped and we can do it. then we'll deport them after they have been convicted and served their time and it won't be so easy to get back in the country. judge jeanine: you and i understand what it takes to get initiated in this ms13 gang it's murder incorporated. if we have someone who entered illegally and is simply a gang member of ms13, is that grounds to prioritize their case and remove them? >> yes. no person can come into the country illegally and not expect to be deported. where did this come from? they get past the bored and they spends a week in the united states and then they are caught
and they get to claim they can't be deported. we need to restore law fullness. if you want to come, wait your turn. if somebody comilts a crime while they are -- commits a crime while they are here legally or illegally. they can and should be deported. >> i believe the message is clear, mechanisms are in place. but there is so much to do. we need more judges and courts, too. >> we are doing what i have done is i examined the hiring process. it takes way too long. we are going to cut that way down. we'll have 75 new judges next year. we'll add 50 new ones within the next few weeks, we'll allow 50 more at the border, and this will help us a lot. judge jeanine: just this week, fox news, tucker carlson started a whole movement.
he had a mayor on, who indicated that he was proved his sanctuary city, lan lansing, michigan it s out after a lot of discussion and a lot of people watched. they called a meeting and it turns out lansing is not now going to be a sanctuary city. what are we going to do besides not giving them grants money if? >> first and foremost they need to listen to their constituents. i don't believe the people of lansing wanted somebody who came to the country illegally and was convicted of a rape or murder or drug deal should not be removed from the country. these cities are saying they get to stay in our community. it makes no sense. the voters of these cities need to hold their city councils and mayors to account. the this works for the mayor,
sometimes they will support the mayor. i talked to police officers and they think this is crazy. judge jeanine: some of them are appointed by the mayor. there has to be a mechanism the federal government has so the local police can identify when an ms13 gang member is getting out of jail for a crime some mayor doesn't think is important enough to fight i.c.e. >> general kelly, the department of homeland security, i.c.e. officers are doing a great job. and they need a heads up. a detainer is that mechanism. you know from a prosecutor in new york. one jurisdiction honors the next jurisdiction. so you have finish your sentence of the bad guy. if they have got a case they want to hold them on, you hold them and turn them over. that's what the detainer allows to happen. what we are doing is irrational. it makes no sense, it under
mines the relationship with the united states government. these cities need to be health to account. judge jeanine: as president obama said, this is not who we are. >> it's remarkable thought, really, people come to america by permission. they get a visa. or they break in the border illegal i. but they are here. if they commit a crime here the law says they shall be deported. not may be. shall be deported. i don't understand all this. we have to keep the pressure up. if you are not cooperating with the federal government you are going to lose grants money. we are going to battle on them every step of the way and put pressure on these cities. it's just important for america and the people in these cities. judge jeanine: how dangerous it is for them. part two of my interview is still ahead. i'll ask the attorney general what the biggest problem facing
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reporter: a failed missile launch by north korea. the missile exploding almost immediately. the failed launch came from north korea's east coast. defense secretary jim mat dissays the president is aware -- jim mattis says the president is aware of the failed launch but has no comment. the north koreans hoag off a number of its intercontinental ballistic missiles. the failed launch coming amid
heightened tensions. judge jeanine: breaking tonight, an attempt and failure by north korea to launch a missile. joining me former governor arkansas and one-time candidate for president. you heard the breaking news from north korea. what's got this lunatic kim jong-un all riled up. governor huckabee: you hit it right. he just ain't right. when talking about kim jong-un, it's fair to say he just ain't right. he thinks in the terms of publicity and showing off. so when he sees tomahawks
hitting syria and moabs hitting afghanistan, he's not getting much attention. he has this big parade and military exercise and the 105th birthday of his grandfather. then he decide to light the candle on a missile and show us how tough he is. on problem is the missile blows up on the pad. this is a guy we have to take seriously. he's seriously delusional and seriously crazy. and that makes him a threat just not to south korea, but the entire planet. >> with all of the show of the intercontinental ballistic missile and the goose stepping and all of the craziness and the excitement. whether it would show whether it was real, it seems as though he
would have to prove something. the failure of the missile launch. and earlier gregg palkot seemed to suggest the failure may have been due to cyber warfare interference which i thought was fascinating that hasn't quite yet been confirmed. but there is an attempt by this country to put a stop to whatever it is he's trying to do. but he clearly has the ability to affect our strategic areas in that part of the world. but let's talk about what happened in the last week or 10 days with syria and afghanistan. here we are on the eve of easter, passover as well. the genocide of christians in the middle east, the birthplace of christianity. and we have a president who kind of changed and said even though we won't be getting involved in the east in, you saw those babies. and he sent over 25, 26 tomahawk
missiles. governor huckabee: we are seeing a president who doesn't put handcuffs on his own military. he trusts them and believes in them. if they say here is what we can do to respond to that. he doesn't spends weeks wring his hands, he says go get the job done, that's why you are there. i think it esprit de corps in the military is the highist's been in 20 -- the highest it's been in 20 years. he's responsible as the commander-in-chief. this is refreshing to see in a president. the release of the moab bomb in afghanistan is a reminder he's not fretting over whether it's going to be popular. he's doing what he believes is necessary to take isis out. that's what he said he was going to do and he turned loose the wrath of the military to get that done.
thank god for that. judge jeanine: people say the use of the moab is the biggest bomb that we have that is not nuclear is something that may have been too much for the tunnels and i understand 94 isis fighters. governor huckabee: it not only killed a significant number of isis fighters and gone it their opportunities where they thought they were safe. it turns out they weren't so safe down there. but it sent a message to all the world that you are not fooling around with people that are going to hit you with bb guns. we are prepared to take it to you wherever you are. i believe it's a powerful message that needed to be sent. i'm delighted the president is willing to use the resources this country has built and use it against it rather than send thousands of ground troops in to get slaughters.
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the unwise decisions in a 200-page decree that's a federal judge is overseeing the police department of baltimore. the city of baltimore'for it. -- baltimore fought for it. ball more started adopting these liberal policies before the dee decree came into effect. they curtail their policing. all of that was erode. arrests went down 37%. and firearm assaults, shootings went up double. 100% increase in shootings. when you take the police off the streets, you tell them you don't want them out there patrolling. talking to people. doing the squeegee and the small crime and the thugs and confronting them and dealing with them, murders go up.
we should not have of any decree on the police department that eliminates constitutionally proven accepted policies that save lives. and these defreeze, some of them do -- these decrees, some of them do that. judge jeanine: you can't detain people in an area or in proximity of a crime. you can't detain people in the vicinity at the time. you have to get written consent for a search and permission from the supervisor before you make an arrest? you can't make a trespass arrest? let's assume you have an old age home and some guy in there is selling drugs, you can't make an arrest unless somebody makes a complaint about a trespass? >> it's incredibly bad. you just laid it out. so much of this is so i will
logical that it demoralizes the police officers. why should they put their neck on the line and walk the streets and confronts some of these that are dangerous and do their duty that is prove on work and working in new york and other cities where they have these kinds of proactive policies. and constitutionally. i just don't understand it. so we have to reevaluate what's happening. we have to support our police. if police make mistakes, if they violate the law, they have to be prosecuted. we'll not hesitate to do that. we'll not allow the civil rights of anybody in this country. but it's not just and it's not legitimate rights situation in which poor people and minorities have crime rates in their neighborhoods many times higher than other neighborhoods. the police departments have to provide public safety in every neighborhood and arrest the people that are causing violence
and drug dealing in those neighborhoods. that's just the basic facts. judge jeanine: what do you think will be the most difficult problem you will have to address as attorney general. >> crime is a challenge. the goal of this administration is to reduce crime in america. we had a 10.8% increase in murders last year nationwide. that's the biggest since the 1960s, i believe. it's gone up again this year. so he said we want to reduce crime. that can be done. i'm telling you. it's not impossible. we had 30 years of reducing crime but now it's popping back up. he also issued an order to crack down on transnational criminal organizations, the cartels and the m.s.13 gangs and that will reduce a lot of violence in america.
and we have to work with our local police department. the officers of state and local, the men and women on the street protecting us. we have to rebuild a relationship between the federal government and police so we can partner. also, you mentioned the community themselves. i remember when i was united states attorney in alabama and we had a meeting with a neighborhood with a high crime rate. they wanted a police precinct put in the neighborhood and the mayor and chief of police said yes we will do it and the crime rate went down. overwhelmingly the people in these neighborhoods are good and decent people who want to be protected from criminals. judge jeanine: street justice at if the white house. next. ugh! heartburn!
judge jeanine: the mother of all bombs dropped on isis fighters in afghanistan. what do americans think? i went outside the white house to find out. president bombs afghanistan, good or bad? >> good. judge jeanine: the president drops the mother of all bombs on afghanistan. good or bad? >> good. terrorists.
so what are we going to do? make them scared of us. judge jeanine: we bombed afghanistan is that good or bad? >> when did we bomb afghanistan? judge jeanine: a couple days ago, was that good or bad? >> questionable. judge jeanine: we bombed afghanistan with the mother of all bombs, good or bad? >> very good. judge jeanine: why? judge jeanine: were you glad he did it? >> i'm very glad. judge jeanine: he said he wasn't going to do stuff like hat? >> he changed his mind. he's the king of change his mind. he said he wasn't going to do sufficient like that. >> i'm even couraged on the fact he changes his mind. >> we are knock out the tunnels. we didn't take any casualties.
judge jeanine: we killed the isis guy. we drop a bomb on afghanistan. good or bad? >> complicated. judge jeanine: you are standing in front of is front yard. >> i'm not sure what to tell you. he seems to have some things going on for him and he seems to make sense in some things. and makes no sense in other things. judge jeanine: what do you think of that message? >> it was a great message to say america is back again. >> what do you think the response is going to be? >> with the people you never know, because you are dealing with terrorists, you never know how they are going to react. judge jeanine: president trump drops bombs upon afghanistan. good, bad? >> to send a message?
judge jeanine: that's my question. was the bombing good tore bad? >> it's questionable. i mean i guess he was sending a signal, judge, about to the north north korean kim jong-un. judge jeanine: why are you taking that out. are you going to hit me with it? >> i'm going to bless you with it. >> disrupt the infrastructure of a terrorist organization and that's good for our cause. judge jeanine: i can't change your mind? you are wrong, i'm right. >> we'll go with that. judge jeanine: we'll be rightew back. but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. oh yes....
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